HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-11-02 Planning Board MinutesMinutes of the Meeting of November 2, 1983.
Chairman Kenneth Messina called the meeting to order in Room 11,
the Community Center, 52 Sanborn Street with all Board members:
M. Rich, J. Shaw, C. Arthur and B. Mitchel present.
The Board opened their deliberations.on the matter of Repetitive
Petition for Stoneham Savings Bank, Haverhill Street land. The
Chairman noted that all discussion will be limited to "material
and substantive"changes fromthe plan submitted to the Board of
Appeals for a variance from the Zoning relating to Wetlands.
The Chairman deferred any further discussion on Planning Board
matters and called the public hearing to order. Recordings were
made of the proceedings. There were approximately 25 citizens
present.
At 9:50 P.M., the Chairman reconvened the meeting of the Planning
Board.
Scenic Roads
Ms. Rich had previous commitments and excused herself before
discussion on final wording for regulations of Scenic Roads
ensued. The Board reviewed the final draft prepared by Mr.
Arthur and upon a motion duly made and seconded, the following
changes were recommended:
In Section 1.4 - add "or,portion thereof"; approved (4-0)
In section 1.6 - add "on either side of"...the center line;
approved (4-0) ;
In Section 3.0 - fee of "Forty dollars ($40.00); approved (4-0)
There being no further business before the Board, it was
unanimously voted to adjourn at 10:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Barry J. Mitchel, Clerk
Rep Petition
Stoneham Savings Bank
11/2/83
Page 2
Questions from Board members included:
Could this granting by the Board set a precedent?
OBL - Each case is unique and must be considered on its
own merits. The particular configuration of this
property is unique and he then presented a map which
showed properties that would have similar problems.
Was there a compensatorystorage area on the original plan
presented to Board of Appeals?
OBL - In original drainage design such area was to be'.placed
behind lot 2. There is still plans to keep this area
for other drainage.
Can compensatory storage replace volume of what they are
planning to fill?
OBL - Sub-soil conditions are the same as within the area
field. They will remove this layer, if necessary,
and replace it elsewhere. Plans are to still have
drainage deposited away from the FP area.
Why was this not part of the original plan?
OBL - From an engineering persepective, the previous plan
was not detrimental to the FP, but the ZBA had trouble
with the filling of 5320 sq ft of FP and so the new
design was conceived to deal with that problem and
to affect the FP area as little as possible.
Why was roadway extended 100 feet?
OBL - Because of change of roadway entrance, one lot was lost
and roadway was extended to compensate for that and
allow them to build the same number of houses as on
the original proposal.
Have you investigated alternate access, especially from paper
street on Rustic Lane?
OBL - There has been no change on the Rustic Lane access. Because
the Town did not keep its rights to that access, they
were lost and owners of that property have no interest
in deeding over that right to Stoneham' Savings Bank.
At this point of the meeting, the public was allowed to direct
questions to be answered. Former chairman of the ZBA, John
Anderson spoke to Board on not allowing the right to a repetitive
petition as they are still encroaching on the overlay district.
OBL answered that if they did not have to encroach on the overlay
district, there would be no need for a request for a variance.
Because of the unusual configuration of this particular parcel
of property, there is no.access to over 24 acres of high, dry
land. By not allowing access to this land is providing substan-
tial hardship to the owners.
Rep Petition
Stoneham Savings Bank
11/2/83
Page 3
The Chairman of the Conservation Commission and former chairman
spoke against allowing any encroachment on the Flood Plain. A
brief history of the conservation laws for this Town was given
and the Board was asked to uphold the intention of the 2/3 vote
of Town Meeting which asked that no filling, dumping, earth
removal, etc. be allowed in an overlay area. Mrs. Anderson
asked that a lawyer from the Mass. Association of Conservation
Commission, Alexandra Dawson, be allowed to speak to the Board.
Miss Dawson stated that it was germaine for the Board to remember
the 3 points on which the Board of Appeals decision was based:
1) - the land was signiificantly not unique;
2) - such granting would not intend to the public
good; and
3) - such granting would derogate from the Flood Plain
section of the Townr'°;s Zoning By-laws.
Miss Dawson asked the Board not to grant the petition. She
felt it would be detrimental not only to this Town's zoning
laws, but would affect other towns as well. She asked that
the Board consider her opinion that there has been nothing
heard that shows a material and significant change.
Chairman Messina then quoted the applicable section of the
MGL and also excerpted from the "Ranney v. Board of Appeals of
Nantucket" case in which the judge states that the Planning
Board may give weight to differences or changes in a plan
which are relatively minor.
Colonel Anderson stated that the change proposed is not one of
intent, the intent remains the same. A significant change he
stated would be one to allow driving for pilings for bridging
the overlay district.
Conservation Chairman Sally Hoyt read a letter into the record
stating their objections.
Mr. Mitchel raised the question that the intent of the zoning
in this regard meant that the land must be completely removed
from the Flood Plain District. Dr. Nickerson, a well-known
conservationist, stated that the original intent under Section 44
was that there was to be no-:change to any part of a Flood Plain.
The question was then raised that this would not apply to drive-
ways, they would be allowed, why then roadways? In response it
was noted that current owners of land may be unnecessarily penalized
from building on their property and a driveway was a minor varia-
tion and such encroachment would not be significantly detrimental
to the FP. A roadway would require greater earth removal in
depth and width and such an encroachment would cause a significant
adverse impact to the FP.
The Chairman was asked to allow Colonel Anderson to submit another
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Rep Petition
Stoneham Savings Bank
11/2/83
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map in rebuttal of the map presented by Attorney Latham.. The
Chairman agreed that such a map could be presented to the
Board members after the close of the public hearing, but no
other material or testimony would be allowed. It was then
determined that the Board will meet to consider its decision
on this matter on November 9, 1983 at 8 P.M.
Upon a motion duly made and seconded, the Board closed its
hearing at 9:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Barry J. Mitchel
Clerk