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Town of Reading
Meeting Minutes
Board - Committee - Commission - Council:
Conservation Commission
Date: 2025-06-25
Building: Reading Town Hall
Address: 16 Lowell Street
Purpose: Hybrid Meeting - Conservation
Commission Meeting
Attendees: Members - Present:
RECEIVED
TOWN CLERK
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2025 OCT -7 PM 1: 45
Time: 07:06 PM
Location: Conference Room
Session: Open Session
Version: Final
Brian Bowe, chair, Martha Moore, vice chair, Tim Michel, Chirag Sthalekar,
Walter Talbot (remote)
Members - Not Present:
Tony Rodolakis
Others Present:
Chuck Tirone (Conservation Administrator), Jack Sullivan, Dan McCarthy, Pat
Thompkins, Garrett (remote), Mary Jirmanus (Saba) (remote), Jeff Lansing
(remote)
Minutes Respectfully Submitted By: ,
Emily Mackenzie Kulenkamp
Topics of Discussion:
This meeting was held in person and remotely via Zoom.
Chair Brian Bowe called the meeting to order at TD6 pm.
Public Hearings
1. 288 Grove St, Meadowbrook Golf Course
Jack Sullivan is an engineer representing Meadowbrook Golf Club. Jack Sullivan stated he will
go through some of the changes he made based on previous meeting with the commission.
Jack Sullivan said the new storage building will be entirely outside the 35' zone, although some
of the existing building is within it.
Jack Sullivan said he previously had a gravel area planned in front of the new maintenance
building but he is now proposing a 12' by 90' paved apron as access to the building, along with
a gravel section. He said the apron would have a 12" trench drain.
Jack Sullivan described the plan's storage bays and exterior doors with 3.5" by 3.5" concrete
landings outside the door. He stated that the building inspector asked for floor drains to consider
this building up to code even though it is intended to be used for storage. Jack Sullivan has
added an oil and grease separator which those drains will drain to in accordance with code and
provided a detail of it on the submitted plan.
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Jack Sullivan said along the 12' by 90' apron there is now a continuous trench drain planned; it
would be conveyed through a manhole and ultimately flow through the Cultec infiltration system
Jack Sullivan stated that a concern from the commission last meeting was cleaning up behind
the building. He stated they are adding one jersey barrier behind the building to prevent vehicle
access and keep the area clean.
Jack Sullivan addressed snow concerns; he stated that although this property and building are
usually not active in the winter, he left some gravel area for the purposes of snow storage if
necessary.
Jack Sullivan stated he added one tree previously left off the plan and a detail of a rhea
concrete trench drain to the plan. He also stated that he updated his pervious and impervious
area tables.
Jack Sullivan stated that he removed a proposed 5' retaining wall and will be using the building
foundation as the retaining wall. He also said he has added that all drains will go into the oil and
grease separator.
Jack Sullivan reiterated that no washing or servicing will be done in the building. He said
pesticides and gasoline will not be stored in the building; petroleum cans under 5 gallons and
fertilizer in appropriate containers will be stored in the building.
Jack Sullivan acknowledged that the area is in the aquifer protection area and emphasized that
the new building will be a significant improvement over the previous maintenance building.
Martha Moore stated she likes the changes made.
Waiter Talbot stated he was impressed with the changes made and is glad to hear that the plan
no longer depends on nothing going wrong. Walter Talbot asked why a rear door is now
included.
Jack Sullivan stated that the 3' wide pedestrian door is necessary as an egress for building code
and would be intended for emergencies only.
Brian Bowe expressed concern that people would use the door regularly anyway.
Pat Thompkins, Meadowbrook board member, emphasized that code requires a second egress
door and that is the only reasonable place to put it but they expect people will always go out the
front of the building. He said they can add some signage.
Brian Bowe asked about the gas cans to be stored in the building.
Dan McCarthy, Meadowbrook board member, explained that he had unintentionally misled the
commission previously; he intended to say there would be no large cans but small cans the
vehicles take out on the course would need to be stored in the new building.
Brian Bowe asked where in the building the storage would be.
Dan McCarthy said they will have a new spill kit and confirmed that any spills would flow into the
spill drains.
Brian Bowe asked Jack Sullivan to explain the idea of paving the apron. He stated that he
explored both liners and pavers. He said that the impervious liner would cause maintenance
issues because anything that collected would not drain. Jack Sullivan stated that the golf course
would prefer not to pave the entire outdoor vehicle lot.
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Chuck Tirone discussed the aquifer protection district, which is a backup water supply, and
stated that something will spill over the next 50 years. Chuck Tirone suggested some options for
drainage including a rain garden and stated that paving the whole area would be more
protective of the aquifer.
Chuck Tirone said there is a high danger of accidental contamination of someone's well to the
west.
Jack Sullivan stated that they did not see how they could get water from the pavement to a rain
garden even though that would lessen costs for the applicant.
Chuck Tirone asked if there were calculations on the stormwater drainage system if the whole
area is paved?
Jack Sullivan said he does not yet have the calculations but the current system could manage
the first Flush if the area was fully paved.
Brian Bowe asked, since cost is a consideration, if they have considered storing the gas cans at
the other maintenance building.
Jack Sullivan said, yes, but the commission is concerned about the equipment stored there as
well.
Pat Thompkins stated that there is a full mechanic's building elsewhere on the property and this
location would be only for briefly stopped equipment. He stated that he felt the 12' by 90'
proposed paving would cover the vast majority of likely use by vehicles. He stated that if the
price goes up too much the membership of the club will balk at covering a new maintenance
building at all.
Brian Bowe asked the commission if they were satisfied. Tim Michel said yes, he thinks the
applicants have done a ton and the 12' is sufficient.
Brian Bowe said his sense is that 12' will cover most of the issues. Martha Moore agreed.
Chuck Tirone stated that this will be an active area.
Brian Bowe said the compelling argument is 87 Walkerbrook— because of the spillage into the
wetland there, the commission required them to do a more extensive trapping system, since the
commission is trying to be consistent.
Martha Moore said she doesn't see this as directly connected since 87 Walkerbrook had
intended drainage into the wetland, unlike this system.
Brian Bowe asked Chuck Tirone K he has an idea of what distance is needed.
Chuck Tirone said he would like to see the whole thing paved but reasonable would be within
the 100' buffer zone.
Jack Sullivan said that would be okay; they would end up paving the snow storage area.
Walter Talbot said he is very pleased with the changes that have been made and is in favor of
the proposed compromise. .
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Martha Moore moved to close the hearing, Chirag Sthalekar seconded, Walter Talbot in favor,
Chirag Sthalekar in favor, Tim Michel in favor, Martha Moore in favor, Brian Bowe in favor. (5-0-
0)
The commission discussed no storage signage around the back door and paving up to the 100'
wetland line as additional conditions. They also specified a Jersey barrier in perpetuity.
Chuck Tirone added as a condition a once -a -year report on the survivability of trees and shrubs
included as mitigation.
Martha Moore moved to update the order of conditions, Chirag Sthalekar seconded. Walter
Talbot, Martha Moore, Chirag Sthalekar, Tim Michel, and Brian Bowe in favor. (5-0-0).
2. 885 Main St
Continued at applicant's request to 7/9. Martha Moore moved to continue. Chirag Sthalekar
continued. Martha Moore, Chirag Sthalekar, Tim Michel, Walter Talbot, and Brian Bowe in favor.
(5-0-0)
3. 695 Pearl St
Continued to 7/9. Martha Moore moved to continue. Chirag Sthalekar continued. Martha Moore,
Chirag Sthalekar, Tim Michel, Walter Talbot, and Brian Bowe in favor. (5-0-0)
4. 57 Longwood Rd
Continued t to 7/9. Martha Moore moved to continue. Chirag Sthalekar continued. Martha
Moore, Chirag Sthalekar, Tim Michel, Walter Talbot, and Brian Bowe in favor. (5-0-0)
OldINew Business
5. 1503 Main St
Request for certificate of compliance. Martha Moore said she and BB walked the site with
Garrett and found the bounds installed although they still need yellow markers from Chuck
Tirone.
Martha Moore stated that Garrett has been doing a great job cutting down invasive buckthorn
and has agreed to remove some compost from the 25' zone. Martha Moore said they saw a tree
house within the wetland itself which they are concerned about. She said they did not see any
alarming erosion.
Chirag Sthalekar asked for clarification on if the ladder from the treehouse is an issue.
Brian Bowe said that this homeowner is clearly making serious efforts. Brian Bowe said he
would like to see the zipline moved but it is okay with the kids' fort staying until the kids age out
it.
Martha Moore stated that invasive removal would be considered mitigation and suggested that
the ongoing removal could be considered post -facto.
Chuck Tirone stated that the commission usually doesn't say anything about tree houses and
there is a goal to get kids to play in the woods. Chuck Tirone recommended against considering
the treehouse and zipline to have been mitigated as that would set a new precedent.
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Brian Bowe and Martha Moore discussed that their main concern is damage to the trees from
the zipline not the zipline inherently.
Martha Moore moved to issue certificate of compliance, Chirag Sthalekar seconded. Walter
Talbot in favor, Tim Michel in favor, Chirag Sthalekar in favor, Martha Moore in favor, Brian
Bowe in favor. (5-0-0)
6. Milbury Forest Montessori School
Mary Jirmanus has returned to discuss this project.
Mary Jirmanus answered some questions from commissioners emailed to her.
Mary Jirmanus said they are pursuing EEC certification as well as local Reading School Board
accreditation. Mary Jirmanus said many of the things requested by the commission, such as
CORI checks, would be required by those regulations.
Mary Jirmanus stated that the children will never be unsupervised with a member of the public
and her understanding is that CORI checks are required for people in unsupervised or regular
contact with the children.
Mary Jirmanus said their intended ratio is 1 to 10 or less and that they have a very good
emergency plan; they will always have at least three adults around.
Mary Jirmanus said everyone who works there is CPR and first aid trained and they have a
primary care physician on call as needed.
Mary Jirmanus also specified their first aid and emergency plans.
Mary Jirmanus stated that they are happy to agree on a set number of parking spots to be used.
Mary Jirmanus said that children will be supervised at all times because the ratio is so low and
will also be trained to be responsible.
Mary Jirmanus said they also have brightly colored vests that can be put on smaller children.
Mary Jirmanus discussed the environmental education mission of the school.
Walter Talbot suggested that CORI checks would be required the second time someone visited.
Chuck Tirone said it might be the first time.
Mary Jirmanus said there is some subjectivity but she does think volunteers and visitors would
need to be CORIed but maintenance people would not need to be CORled. She stated that her
understanding is that the difference is between adults intending to interact with the children and
those just being in public spaces; she said she can discuss this with her EEC licenser.
Chuck Tirone stated that the entire garden is within one fenced area so there would be
separation.
Mary Jirmanus stated that the regulations require more background checking for children in
private buildings rather than outside in public spaces.
Martha Moore said there were some questions about the philosophy of the school and how it is
run but she thinks that is not the commission's purview. She stated they are not judging the
value of the program but only the program's use of their property.
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Chuck Tirone stated that he thinks this program is in fact supporting conservation under Article
97 because it is promoting environmental education.
Brian Bowe also stated that he is strongly in favor of this use.
Chirag Sthalekar stated he is also on board and asked if this would be for this Fall or the
following Fall.
Chuck Tirone stated that this Fall would be ideal but that there might be an option to switch to
the new Reading location last minute if it is approved.
Chuck Tirone also emphasized that this area is very underused during school hours.
Brian Bowe stated that the official documentation would be a licensing agreement through the
Town Council.
Mary Jirmanus said they would expect 3-4 teachers in response to Brian Bowe's question about
parking. Martha Moore pointed out that there is a lower driveway as well that could be used for
parking.
Chuck Tirone stated that the town would have to decide to create a licensing agreement before
the project could move forward.
Martha Moore made a motion stating that the Conservation Commission approves of the
Milbury Montessori School running a pilot program for the 2025-2026 school year at Mattera
Cabin Conservation land and would like the town to move forward with the licensing agreement
etc. that is needed to make this work.
Chirag Sthalekar seconded, Chirag Sthalekar in favor, Walter Talbot in favor, Tim Michel in
favor, Martha Moore in favor, Brian Bowe in favor. (5-0-0)
7. Annual Budget Fiscal Year 2026
Brian Bowe described a few general buckets of funding in this budget: to buy landscaping and
maintenance tools for use at various conservation properties (ie weedwhacker, shovels, rakes,
wheelbarrow); invasive management focused on Bare Meadow with $5.000.00 set aside;
signage on conservation areas including Kurchian Woods ($3,100.00); $1,000.00 for
improvements at Matters itself, primarily the construction of a deck behind Matters that is
currently ongoing; replacing two posts broken in a fence at Maillet Sommes and Morgan.
Chuck Tirone stated these tools would be kept at Matters Cabin and could be used by Trails
Committee or other town committees if they signed out the tools.
Brian Bowe then stated that this budget has not yet been submitted and asked the other
commissioners to mention any ideas they have.
Chuck Tirone stated that commissions must go before the Select Board to submit requests and
commissioners should go but that the date is not yet fixed.
Martha Moore stated she would like to get a sign at the Bare Meadow Woodcock Habitat
Restoration Area with a picture of a woodcock on it.
Brian Bowe stated that he and Chuck Tirone had discussed this idea.
Walter Talbot said it would be nice to have a map or list of every property in Reading that falls
under the commission jurisdiction.
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Brian Bowe stated there is a spreadsheet available. Walter Talbot clarified he means properties
within 100' of the wetlands.
Brian Bowe said he attempted that at one point but it was overwhelming.
Walter Talbot asked if that is something the GIS department might do.
Brian Bowe said let's follow up.
7. 50 Johanna Dr
Martha Moore moved to continue to 7/9. Chirag Sthalekar continued. Martha Moore, Chirag
Sthalekar, Tim Michel, Walter Talbot, and Brian Bowe in favor. (5-0-0)
8. DPW Conservation Meeting July 8th
Chuck Tirone will confirm the date but that it is definitely not on the 181.
9. Administrator's Report
Chuck Tirone stated that volunteers have been watering at Bare Meadow. He stated there is a
boardwalk being put in at Higgins.
10. Minutes for Approval:
Brian Bowe reminded everyone to respond with corrections just to the minute taker and not to
other commissioners to avoid an Open Meeting Law violation.
Martha Moore moved to approve minutes from 4/23; Chirag Sthalekar seconded, Walter Talbot
in favor, Chirag Sthalekar in favor, Tim Michel in favor, Brian Bowe in favor.
Martha Moore moved to approve minutes from 5/14; Chirag Sthalekar seconded, Walter Talbot
in favor, Chirag Sthalekar in favor, Tim Michel in favor, Brian Bowe in favor.
Martha Moore moves to approve the invoice for $850.00 Massachusetts Associations of
Conservation Commission (MACC), Chirag Sthalekar seconded, Walter Talbot in favor, Chirag
Sthalekar in favor, Tim Michel in favor, Martha Moore in favor, Brian Bowe in favor. (5-0-0)
11. DPW Request
DPW has asked for an additional storage area for carts near Town Forest.
Chuck Tirone showed a diagram of the location; they are asking for a 8' by 40' storage
container. They already have 2 and want a third.
Martha Moore confirmed they are outside the 35'.
Chuck Tirone said yes they are and they are talking about already disturbed land and noted
they have not finished trench work.
Martha Moore stated for the record that this is not the DPW's lack of planning; residents did not
request smaller carts ahead of time.
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Martha Moore proposed that the commission allow the administrator's approval for this, Chirag
Sthalekar seconded, Martha Moore, Chirag Sthalekar, Tim Michel, Walter Talbot, and Brian
Bowe in favor. (5-0-0)
12. Tree Cages
Walter Talbot asked Chuck Tirane about tree cages from the Town Forest; Chuck Tirane is
being offered these tree cages.
Martha Moore suggested that they could stay around the trees until needed.
Walter Talbot said he is concerned about plant damage when they are taken off.
Martha Moore asked if they could put the cages around trees in Area 7.
Chuck Tirane stated that Forestry might want them.
Jeff Lansing, Trails Committee, joined the Zoom meeting to answer this question. He stated that
some trees have outgrown the cages.
Jeff Lansing stated that the Town Forest Committee is going to focus on invasives removal
going forward rather than protecting plantings with cages.
13. Site Visit for 692 Pearl St
Martha is planning on going to 692 Pearl St for a site visit on the 27'h of June.
Chuck Tirane said he would make sure the homeowner can attend at that time.
Martha Moore moves to adjourn 9:23, Chirag Sthalekar seconded. Martha Moore, Chirag
Sthalekar, Walter Talbot, Brian Bowe, Tim Michel in favor. (5-0-0)
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