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Historic District Commission
Date: 2021-04-21 Time: 700 PM
Building: Location: Remote Meeting - Zoom
Address: Session:
Purpose: Meeting Version:
Attendees: Members: Pino D'Orazio, Chair; Amelia Devin-Freedman, Vice Chair; Everett
Blodgett, Virginia Adams, Carl Mittnight
Members - Not Present:
Greg Maganzini, Ilene Bornstein
Others Present: Julie Mercier, Community Development Director, Amy
Karcz, Geoff Freeman, Jerry Lamb, Robert Corwin
Minutes Respectfully Submitted By: Julie Mercier
Topics of Discussion:
MEETING HELD REMOTELY VIA ZOOM
Chair D'Orazio called to order at 7:OOPM and went through Zoom protocols.
The rest of the Commission members introduced themselves.
Mr. D'Orazio elevated Ms. Adams and Mr. Mittnight to voting status.
196 West Street
Amy Karcz was present on behalf of the application.
Ms. Karcz explained that she would like to do a roof replacement and fascia repair of rotted
areas along the driveway side of the house. Fascia is the curved roof molding, which is
decorative.
She is proposing pewterwood Certainteed Landmark Series architectural shingles for the
roof, and in-kind molding that will be flat instead of tiered.
Chair D'Orazio screen shared the application, a street view of the house, and the roofing
color catalogue.
Ms. Karcz explained the shingle color in more detail.
Mr. Blodgett noted that the Commission does not have jurisdiction over roof color, though it
is nice information to have. He mentioned a prior process of allowing In-kind replacement
that was easier for applicants.
Ms. Adams noted that for the fascia repair, wood is encouraged versus artificial materials.
She noted that gutters are not in the Commission's purview.
Ms. Kara stated that the repair of the rotted fascia will be with wood, and that gutters will
likely be contemplated in the future. She noted that she would use a flat fascia which would
enable them to install gutters later.
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Mr. Blodgett noted that the existing fascia molding would be hard to attach gutters to, but
that making it Flat would be a change to a historic aspect of the house. Ms. Karcz noted that
they can replace it with shaped molding instead of Flat, if that's easier and desired by the
Commission.
Mr. Blodgett suggested alternatives for replacement and noted that the Commission does
not have jurisdiction over the back of the house. He suggested she could replace it as best
as possible in the visible areas.
Ms. Adams inquired about the age of the house. Ms. Karcz replied that it was constructed in
1924; Mr. Blodgett confirmed that a 97-year old house falls within their jurisdiction.
There were no other comments.
Mr. Blodgett moved that the Commission approve the Certificate of Appropriateness for the
in-kind roof replacement with the repair of the fascia, noting that some adjustments may be
needed to the fascia and molding (moving some from the back of the house to the front) to
make attachment and repair easier. Mr. D'Orazio seconded the motion. The Commission
voted 5-0-0.
The Commission discussed drafting the Certificate of Appropriateness, which should be
ready in a couple of days. Once the Building Division has it, the Building Permit will be
issued.
129 West Street
Geoff Freeman was present for the application.
Mr. Freeman explained that he has lived in Town for 7 years and would like to replace the
fence on the perimeter of his property along West Street and Oak Street, which has fallen
into disrepair. He intends to replace it with a similar 4'tall cedar fence, but it will have a
slightly different style from what is there now. He would like a Flat-topped fence versus the
existing scalloped-topped fence.
Mr. D'Orazio screen shared an image of the proposed fence.
Ms. Adams thanked the applicant for proposing wood instead of vinyl. Mr. Freeman noted
that he was able to find a cost-effective wood fence, which he was happy about.
Mr. Blodgett asked for clarification on the height of the existing fence. Mr. Freeman clarified
that it is between T-4' due to the scalloping.
Mr. D'Orazio asked the length of the fence. Mr. Freeman said it is a lot, the whole street
frontage of the property.
Mr. Blodgett suggested the Commission view this as an in-kind replacement to make the
process easier. Mr. Freeman said that it is in-kind but nicer. The Commission agreed.
Mr. D'Orazio moved that the Commission approve the Certificate of Appropriateness for an
in-kind cedar fence at 129 West Street. Ms. Devin Freedman seconded. The Commission
voted 5-0-0.
Mr. Freeman asked a couple of follow-up questions about the Commission's jurisdiction. He
noted that his roof may need replacing soon. Ms. Adams and Mr. Blodgett stated that
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anything visible from any public way is within their jurisdiction. Mr. D'Orazio clarified that
some things can be done without approval, but letting the Commission know gives them the
opportunity to review if needed, and the Commission will issue a Certificate of Non-
Applicability. Non-vegetative landscaping is under their jurisdiction; paint color is not, but
notification and a Certificate of Non-Applicability would be in order. Mr. D'Orazio alerted Mr.
Freeman to the guidelines.
186 Summer Avenue - Ongoina Discussion
Ms. Devin Freedman recapped the conversation the Reading Historical Commission (RHC)
had with Dr. Littleton of Criterion in the fall. At that time, Dr. Littleton asked for patience for
90 days while they re-bid the project due to complications due to COVID. Ms. Devin
Freedman noted that it's been more than 90 days at this point. During the RHC meeting,
Mr. Barnes noted that the Commission's Certificate of Appropriateness expires in June 2021,
which is 2 years from the date of first issuance of the Building Permit, and is a drop-dead
date for completion of the work. He suggested that the RHC seek input from Town Counsel
about what the options are when the Certificate expires. Mr. Barnes would like to have Dr.
Littleton attend a meeting in order to smooth out any communication issues. Ms. Devin
Freedman noted that she has drafted a letter requesting Dr. Littleton attend a joint meeting
of the RHC and HDC to discuss. She screen-shared the letter.
Ms. Devin Freedman noted that COVID is a 'good cause' to request an extension, and asked
if anyone knows the typical length of an extension, and whether an extension needs to be
requested before the Certificate expires. Mr. D'Orazio asked whether not allowing an
extension would just bring everything back to square one and perpetuate the situation of
nothing happening on the property. Mr. Blodgett opined that the applicant has not been
operating in good faith or shown 'good cause.'
Ms. Mercier explained that typically requests for extensions need to be made before a
permit expires, but that the COVID State of Emergency has suspended a number of
timeframes and deadlines, and so the `drop dead' date may not actually be imminent. She
noted that Town Counsel could be looped in to clarify this, and to let the Commission know
what their options are in terms of granting extensions, enforcing the terms of the
Preservation Restriction Agreement, what could happen if the Certificate lapses, and
whether there is anything that can be done at the State level.
Mr. Jerry Lamb asked about the 2019 Building Permit, and noted that the fence has been up
around the property for at least five years. Mr. Blodgett clarified that the Building Permit is
what starts the clock on the Certificate and 2-year timeframe, and that a Building Permit
was applied for in 2019.
Ms. Mercier mentioned some memories of a joint RHC/HDC meeting in January 2016 to
finalize the Preservation Restriction Agreement and Certificates for this property. She
agreed to help the Commission compile a chronology of events for Town Counsel.
Robert Corwin of 199 Summer Avenue, across the street from the property, chimed in and
stated that he thinks it is time that the Commission apply some pressure to the situation.
He opined that Criterion is doing nothing and expecting the Town to do nothing. He
commented that this is the 3rd time Criterion has said they would be starting the work, and
that they never follow through on it. He noted that no one seems to want to take
responsibility for the situation and asked how to get someone to take charge. Nobody has a
clear understanding of who has authority.
Mr. D'Orazio noted that leverage is limited without going to court, and noted that the
Commission cannot start suing people. He did mention that as signatories to the
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Preservation Agreement, if they are not complying with it, there are certain things that can
be done and ways that it can be enforced.
Mr. Corwin noted that the Select Board has had no problem spending money on the Daniel's
House situation, but that his neighborhood gets nothing to deal with this problem. He asked
why that situation warrants Town money but this one doesn't.
Ms. Devin Freedman asked Mr. Corwin if he reached out to the Building Commissioner about
the fence at Summer Avenue. Mr. Corwin responded that he has not yet.
Ms. Devin Freedman stated that many entities have some authority, and figuring out how to
coordinate and bring it to bear on Criterion is the question for Town Meeting. She noted that
she would summarize the issues for Ms. Mercier, in order for Ms. Mercier to get Town
Counsel involved. Mr. D'Orazio agreed to help put together a chronology of the project and
send it to Ms. Mercier.
Mr. Blodgett mentioned that there must be something at the State level that allows Dr.
Littleton to get away with doing nothing. He noted a number of issues with the building that
are not being addressed.
Mr. Corwin noted that someone at Mass Historical Commission (MHC) was very helpful to
the Commission in the creation of the Summer Avenue Historic District. Mr. Blodgett noted
that it was Chris Skelly, but that he really didn't want to get involved with this specific
property.
The Commission discussed what they want. They want to compel Dr. Littleton to do what he
said he would do. They pondered what effect the Dover Amendment has, and noted that the
Preservation Restriction Agreement runs with the land.
187 West Street - Continued Discussion from 3/31/21
Tom Prendergast was present on behalf of the application.
Mr. D'Orazio recapped that the application is for installation of a television and awnings on
the side of house, visible from West Street. He noted that Mr. Prendergast did make some
changes to the proposal since the last discussion. He asked Mr. Prendergast to go through
the changes.
Mr. Prendergast noted that he reviewed other potential locations for the TV, and discussed
options with his Installer. He noted that the corner doesn't really work due to a crank
window and regular window. He also looked at the other corner, and the potential to install
it at eye-level, but there is a sconce light in the way which would have to be removed. The
installer did not think it was a viable location because people could easily bump into it. He
also looked at whether he could build a special apparatus for the TV.
He noted that the awning would extend about 7-8' off the deck, which would completely
cover the TV. He said he is amenable to a condition requiring the awning to be extended
whenever the TV is on. He noted that the TV will also be covered when not in use.
Mr. Mittnight asked for clarification on the cover. Mr. Prendergast reiterated that the cover
is for the TV.
Ms. Adams noted that the deck is elevated by a couple of feet. She said she went through
the guidelines several times and cannot find justification for a TV that is visible from the
street. She noted the criteria regarding review of the relationship between this proposal and
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the harmony and character of the streetscape. She said she cannot see how this fits Into the
Historic District.
Ms. Devin Freedman agreed with Ms. Adams.
Mr. Blodgett noted that awnings are not really meant to be used this way, and is not sure
that this awning meets typical requirements or is historically appropriate.
Ms. Mercier clarified that a building permit Is required before an awning is installed.
Mr. D'Orazio read through the application. He noted that the Commission probably needs to
take an up or down vote on whether to approve it.
Mr. Blodgett suggested that the TV could be located at the back of the house, between the
house and the other structure. Mr. Prendergast noted that It's a driveway and would not
work for his proposal.
Mr. D'Orazio noted some comments from Mr. Maganzinl, who was not able to participate. He
noted that Mr. Maganzini does not think the TV will be that visible, and will require people to
crane their necks to actually see. Mr. Prendergast pointed out that many people have TVs
inside visible through their bay windows.
Mr. D'Orazio said he is willing to entertain a middle-ground solution where the awning is
down when the TV is on. Ms. Devin Freedman disagreed and noted that if the awning does
not have sides, the TV will be visible from certain points of view. Mr. Prendergast disputed
Ms. Devin Freedman's statement. He does not believe the TV will be visible when the
awning is down.
Mr. D'Orazlo asked if the applicant has explored getting an awning with sides.
Mr. Prendergast said there is a piece that can be attached, but that the installer did not
think it would work or make a difference.
Ms. Adams asked for Mr. D'Orazlo to clarify for the applicant who the voting members are.
Mr. Prendergast clarified that if the TV is not approved, he still wants the awning, but If the
awning is not approved, he will not get the TV. Mr. Blodgett noted that there are two
separate things going on. He said he thinks if the awning were approved and put up, it
might then be easier for the Commission to understand what it will or won't cover.
Mr. Prendergast agreed that the application should be separated Into two parts: (1) awning,
and (2) TV.
Mr. D'Orazio moved that the Commission approve the Certificate of Appropriateness for the
awning at 187 West Street. Mr. Blodgett seconded.
Ms. Devin Freedman asked for details on the awning size. Mr. Prendergast provided them.
He noted that if the TV is not approved, then he would mount the awning right above the
deck doors.
Ms. Adams went through the steps for a vote.
VOTE on Awning: 4-1-0
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Will the Commission waive the public hearing?The standard is whether this is insubstantial
to the District.
Ms. Adams believes this is a substantial change to the District, given the visibility of it from
the street. Mr. D'Orazio agreed.
Mr. D'Orazio moved that the Commission hold a public hearing for the awning. Ms. Adams
seconded. The Commission voted 5-0-0.
Abutters Letter will be sent providing notification of Certificate and public hearing.
Mr. Prendergast agreed to extend the 45-day timeframe for the application.
The Commission agreed to schedule a public hearing for Thursday, May 13th.
Mr. D'Orazio moved that the Commission approve a Certificate of Appropriateness for a TV
installed on the exterior wall at 187 West Street. Mr. Blodgett seconded. The Commission
voted 1-4-0. Motion did not pass.
Ms. Adams commented that this was a difficult decision for the Commission and something
they had never dealt with before. She wished the applicant well and hoped that he is able to
figure out a solution that will work. Mr. D'Orazio offered that the applicant can come back
with alternatives if desired.
Mr. Prendergast inquired about the `temporary' comment made by Ms. Devin Freedman, and
asked if the Commission would be ok with it only in spring and summer. Ms. Devin
Freedman clarified that the guidelines discuss'permanent change' versus something that is
not up all year. Mr. Prendergast asked for clarification of the guidelines. Ms. Devin
Freedman and Ms. Adams attempted to clarify.
New Business
Mr. Blodgett mentioned that he got the mail and asked if anyone would like to have it.
Mr. Blodgett explained the past process for in-kind approval by the Chair. Mr. D'Orazio and
Ms. Devin Freedman agreed they would like to continue reviewing things with the full
Commission until they are more seasoned in their roles as Chair and Vice Chair.
Ms. Adams noted that Harvey window has stopped fabricating a historic window that many
historic districts had come to rely on.
Ms. Adams noted she sent out a draft proposal for how.the HDC can handle new technology,
such as exterior conduits for heating systems, etc. She would like the Commission to be
more proactive and prepared for the future.
Minutes
No minutes were reviewed.
Adiournment
Mr. Mittnight made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 10:10 PM. The motion was
seconded by Ms. Devin Freedman and approved with a 5-0-0 vote.
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Documents Reviewed at the Meeting:
0 196 West Street Application
0 129 West Street Application
0 187 West Street Application
0 186 Summer Avenue Preservation Restriction Agreement
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