HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-11-01 Board of Survey Minutes Board of Survey Meeting of November 1, 1964 Page i
A meeting of the Board of Survey convened in Room 11 of the
Community Center, 52 Sanborn Street, Reading, Me. at 7:00 P.M.
Present were Chairman Barker, Secretary Hampson, Board Member
Griffin, Superintendent A.V. Fletcher and Asst. Superintendent William A.
Redford.
Mr. Hampson read the Notice of Public Hearing at 7:00 F.M.
regarding taking an easement through private property located off Pine
Ridge Road for drainaqe and sewerage purposes.
There were three abuttors present.
Asst. Supt. Redford stated part of the Avalon Road Extension
Subdivision was predicated on the concept of removing the existing 12"
drain pipe and replacing it with a 20" drain pipe to improve the drainage
characteristics of this entire area. He stated the Mullins and Franklin
properties are impacted by this easement.
Mr. Redford stated he spoke with both Mrs. Mullins and Mrs.
Franklin and advised them we would be having a Public Hearing. Both of the
individuals understood this was a forseeable step for the Town and both
indicated they had no problems with this, but were concerned that the
debrushing activity he limited and the ground be returned to as close to
existing conditions as possible. He informed them this was our standard
operating procedure.
Mrs. Wood ,joined the meeting at 7: 10 P.M.
Doris Dagnese of it Pine Ridge Road was very concerned with her
shrubs and her lawn and garden.
Mr. Redford informed her the intent is that the developer will do
the work and he will be required to bring this area back to its existing
condition. This is proposed to be done this fall and abuttors will be
notified before they arrive. The Department will replace the bushes and
grass.
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Harry Simmons of 17 Pine Ridge Road stated we have a dogwood tree
that we do not want removed.
Mr. Redford replied we will try to save it if at all possible.
Mr. Mullins of 100 Oak Street asked if the Department is going to
widen the easement currently on his property.
Mr. Redford replied you currently do not have an easement on your
property, we are going to take a 20 foot easement.
It was moved, seconded and voted 4:0 to close the hearing at 7: 15
P.M.
It was moved, seconded and voted 4:0 to accept the easement on
the Franklin and Mullins property according to the presentation tonight.
Mr. Hampson read the Notice of Public Hearing at 7: 15 P.M.
regarding the approval, disapproval or modification of plans for the Pine
Grove Fstates subdivision.
There were nine abuttors present as well as 0. Bradley Latham,
Attorney for the applicant, Stoneham Savings Bank, and William Jones,
Donald E. Martinage and Jack Lougee of Dana Perkins and Associates.
Chairman Barker welcomed everyone to the hearing and introduced
the members of the Board and the Department.
Mr. Jones of Dana Perkins and Associates showed a preliminary
plan which created 26 lots on 24 acres of land. The main access to the
subdivision is off Rustic Lane.
Asst. Supt. Redford put up a plan depicting seasonal standing
water, wetlands plants, town-zoned wetland protection district boundaries
and town-zoned flood plain area. He stated the developer is proposing a
roadway far in excess of the Board of Survey's maximum 900 feet. In
September of 1983 the Board granted a variance of the roadway length of
150 feet, which would have made a total of 1050 feet. The proposed
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' roadway is now 1,335 feet, which far exceeds the limit. He stated the
Department has a number of concerns as depicted on his handout (attached).
Chairman Barker read into the record a letter from the
Conservation Commission regarding their concerns about this preliminary
subdivision (attached).
Mr. Griffin asked are there any instances of landlocking?
Mr. Redford replied no.
Mrs. Wood asked if there is any way they could connect the two
roads.
Mr. Jones replied there is a problem with the Nichols property
extending 35 feet into the Flood Plain and therefore we can not connect
the two roadways.
Ally. Brad Latham stated we recognize we have to go before the
Conservation Commission to address their concerns. He stated they are
requesting a waiver of the 900 foot roadway length limitation and
presented the Baord with a letter (attached).
Mrs. Wood expressed concern about the traffic volume generated on
Rustic Lane because of the new roadway entrance. She stated she would
like to see the two roadways connected to alleviate some of the traffic
problems. She would also like them to address the Environmental Impact
statement.
Mr. Jones stated we will address this at the Definitive Stage.
Mark Nichols of 430 Haverhill Street asked why did the Board of
Appeals deny your appeal?
Ally. Latham replied because of the Flood Plain. We are now
t going through a legal battle over this.
Curt Nitzsrhe of 453 Haverhill Street stated I think the
developer has addressed some of the problems. My main concern is drainage.
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He stated any access on to Haverhill Street would be a danger to the
people who would be using it.
Roger D'Entremont of 398 Haverhill Street stated this property
was surveyed on a frozen ground November day and felt the surveys were
wrong to start with, the Flood Plain is much larger. He felt the Board
was wrong in listening to Latham a Latham who are, in his opinion,
representing "crooks who want to make a lot of money".
David Schurman of 453 Haverhill Street stated he felt there will
be a major problem with the traffic on Haverhill Street. He gave the
Board some photographs of the area depicting the present conditions in
regard to traffic and sight lines.
It was moved, seconded and voted 4:0 to close the hearing at B: 15
P.M.
Mr. Hampson read the Notice of Public Hearing at 8:30 P.M.
regarding the laying out as public ways, the following roadways, under the
Betterment Act:
Roadway From To
F Street Libby Avenue Westerly to End
Pine Avenue Minot Street Westerly to End
Eastway Pearl Street Southerly to End
Granqer Avenue Existing end of Eastway
Public Way Layout
Chairman Barker welcomed everyone to the Hearing and introduced the
members of the Board and Department.
There were approximately 20 abutters present.
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Asst. Supt. Redford stated the Board received a petition in each
' case from some of these abuttors requesting the Town accept certain
roadways as public ways. He explained the difference between a public way
and a private way. He explained that only after Town Meeting appropriates
the funds would a private way he converted to a public way. He stated the
plans we have prepared are preliminary in nature. In most cases, the Town
is not being stringent about a 50 foot layout,
Regarding F Street, Mr. Redford stated there are five homes on
this roadway. He stated it will cast $24,1.64.69 to bring this road up to
acceptable standards under Option I (no sidewalks).
Helen LeFavour of F Street asked what trees are you going to
remove?
Mr. Redford replied down near the Griecos lot and one between the
Griecos and the Sterins.
Mrs. Sterin of 4 F Street asked can we elect not to have seeding
and fertilizing.
Mr. Redford replied no.
Regarding Pine Avenue, Mr. Redford stated this is currently a 30
foot layout. The total cost to bring this up to standard under Option I
would be 430,985.08. The water main does need to be upgraded. There are
some laterals that need to be upgraded or replaced. He stated we do not
charge the cost of a water main to the abuttors and to his knowledge all
of the homes are connected to the sewer.
Regarding Granger Avenue, Mr. Redford stated the total cost to
bring this up to Town standards would be $429.00.
There were no abuttors present.
Regarding Eastway and Eastway Extension, Mr. Redford stated this
is generally in good shape. The first section of Eastway needs quite a
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bit of work and an overlay.
Bob Kursmark of 153 Eastway asked are you saying the new portion
of Fastway by itself will not he accepted as a public way?
Mr. Redford replied the Department's recommendation is to accept
streets in total only.
Mr. Kursmark stated it would make a lot of sense to me to accept
only the new portion of Eastway at the same time you accept the new
portion of Granger Avenue.
Mr. Linscott asked haw much damage was done by installing the
sewer main one year after the development.
Mr. Redford replied I am not sure. There is a lot of sand
underneath that roadway. The trenches were filled in and repaired to the
pre-existing condition.
After further discussion, it was moved, seconded and voted 4:0 to
close the hearing.
It was moved, seconded and voted 4:0 to accept the Sewer Permit
Policy as stated in the Superintendent's memorandum.
Mr. Hampson moved and it was seconded to go into Executive
Session to discuss personnel matters, not to reconvene in open session and
the Chairman polled the Board as follows:
Mr. Griffin - aye
Mr. Hampson - aye
Mrs. Wood - aye
Mr. Barker - aye
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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TOWN OF READING, MASSACHUSETTS
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BOARD OF PUBLIC
Mr. Douglas Barker, Chairman
Town of Reading 1
Board of Public Works
TOWN OF READING
RE: Preliminary Plan - Pine Grove Estates
Dear Mr. Barker:
The Conservation Commission has reviewed the preliminary plan
on the above-referenced project and offers the following comments :
1) The project presents many wetland and floodplain problems.
It appears from the Preliminary Plan that at least 22 lots
directly will come under the jurisdiction of the Conservation
Commission. Some of these subject lots are located on what
could clearly be called marginal land at the further end of
A Street. These wetland complications would be lessened if
the length of A Street were more in compliance with the Reading
Board of Survey Rules and Regulations, Section 5 B. 6.
2) From the Preliminary Plan it is unclear as to what would
happen to the wetland area which fronts on Haverhill Street
and lies between the area of lots 6, 7, S and lots 26 and A.
The wet nature of much of this subject land will require a
major filing with the Conservation Commission for the necessary
wetland approvals. The Commission anticipates cooperation in the
effort to make this project a benefit to the proponents and the
Town of Reading.
The Conservation Commission appreciates this opportunity to
express its ccmmients to this Preliminary Plan.
nFor the Conservation Commission,
Charles T. Costello
Administrator
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TOWN OF READING
BOARD OF SURVEY
PRELIMINARY HEARING
Pine Grove Estates
November 1, 1984
In accordance with current State statutes, no Person shall make a
subdivision of land unless they have first submitted to the Board of
Survey. The Board must hold a public hearing and act an the submission
(approve, approve with modifications, or disapprove) within 60 days. The
Board uses the forum of the public hearing to obtain reports, information
and concerns specific to the submitted plans from the developer, Board of
Health, Conservation Commission, various Boards and Committees and
effected public..
The Board may use the remaining time within the EO day limit to
deliberate on the information presented and review the subdivision for its
conformance with State requirements, local zoning ordinances and the
Town's Subdivision Rules and Regulations.
In the case of this Preliminary Plan Hearing, a more detailed
submisiion of these subdivision plans is required and an additional
hearing conforming to the requirements previously described must be held
prior to any utility or housing construction.
The Board of Survey encourages all individuals affected by this
planned development to offer input consistent with the provisions of
Subdivision Control Law during the hearing process.
The Reading Department of Public Works Engineering Division,
after review of the information filed to date, submits the following list
of concerns:
Formalaction on this subdivision is required by Nov. 25, 1984.
�A. Lots 5 and 12 have insufficient frontage to be considered separate
building lots (must have a minimum of BO.0' along a 50 - 200'
radius curve).
Catch basin configurations at end of the roads are unacceptable
as proposed.
'4, Catch basins are required at all roadway intersection.
Drain outlets are shown as straight discharges (without any
velocity or volume reducing devices).
The plan does not indicate the protection or handling of the
stream on Lots 8 and 9 (or what equalizing effect this Swale has
on overflow from the two wetland ares).
A number of lots may not comply with the 12,000 s.f. outside
\ the Flood Plain or Wetland Protection District.
R The drain easement on lots 13, 1.4, 19, and 20 must be 30.01.
9. The proposed roadway far exceeds the 900' length limit and the
previous waiver grant of 1,050' (proposed is 1,335').
LATHAM AND LATHAM, P.C.
643 MAIN STREET
READING, MASSACHUSETTS 0I867
KENNETH C. LATHAM AREA CODE 617
O. BRADLEY LATHAM TELEPHONE: 949-OSOS
DAVID J. LATHAM
WILLIAM C. WAGNER
SANDOR RABKIN November 1 , 1984
KATHLEEN M. MITCHELL
Board of Survey
Town Hall
Lowell Street
Reading, Massachusetts 01867
Re: Request for Waiver as to Dead End Road Length; "Pine Grove
Estates" Subdivision, Reading, Massachusetts
Request is hereby made that roadway "A11 as shown on the
preliminary plan be approved as to length (approximately 1 ,300 feet) .
Although from a traffic flow perspective, it may be considered
beneficial to connect the roadway to Haverhill Street directly, such a
connection is impossible by virtue of the Reading Zoning By-Laws and
the refusal by the Reading Zoning Board of Appeals to grant a variance
to allow for such connection.
The Regulations of the Board prescribe that a permanent dead end
street should not be more than nine hundred feet in length" . However,
the Regulations also provide that the road length limitation can be
waived because of topography or other considerations.
There are special considerations with reference to the premises
that warrant the granting of a variance to allow the proposed road
length, as follows:
1 . The Reading Zoning By-Laws (Flood Plain Overlay District) and
the refusal by the Reading Zoning Board of Appeals to allow the
roadway to cross the edge of the flood plain, preclude the extension
of the roadway to cause it to be connected to Haverhill Street; to
avoid a dead-end street.
2. The only way that the rear portions of the upland can be
utilized for single family house lots, consistent with the zoning is
to allow the roadway to be of the length requested . Otherwise,
appropriate uplands will be landlocked.
3 . The reason for having a road length limitation is to provide
for adequate emergency vehicle access to houses near the end of a road
and to provide for looping of utility lines. The applicant can
address these concerns:
(a) The water and sewer lines would be looped ;
( b) Adequate emergency vehicle access can be provided to Street
"A" from Haverhill Street by means of an emergency vehicle easement.
We ask the Board to recognize, as it has in the past (Carriage
Estates -- Beaton Road) that circumstances are present that warrant
allowing the road length as requested. We ask the Board to further
recognize that the reasons why a dead-end road length limitation is
imposed have been addressed by the proposed plan.
The Applicants respectfully request a favorable variance from the
Board.
Sincerely,
LATHAM AND LATHAM P. C .
O. Brldley Latham
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