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TOWNECLERK ®,
READING. MASS. _
Board - Committee - Commission - Council: 101b NOV I l A % 05
RMLD Board of Commissioners Policy Committee
Date: 2015-04-23 Time: 7:30 AM
Building: Reading Municipal Light Building Location:
General Managers Conference Room
Address: 230 Ash Street Session: Open Session
Purpose: Regular meeting. Version:
Attendees: Members - Present:
Messrs. Pacino, Stempeck and O'Rourke
Members - Not Present:
Others Present:
Mr. Talbot,Mses. O'Brien and Foti, Messrs. Jaffari and Price
Christopher Pollart, Esquire, Rubin and Rudman
Minutes Respectfully Submitted By: Thomas O'Rourke, Chairman
Topics of Discussion:
Call Meeting to Order
Chairman Pacino, Chair of the Policy Committee called the meeting to order at 7:35 am.
Continued Review of Board Policies
Ms. O'Brien reported that the trucks sold at the auction. In a discussion with Powers & Sullivan, RMLD
can reasonably assume that the trucks will come in at less than $10,000 then go to auction. The trucks
sold for $8,000, $8,000 and $10,000 cost after commission.
A Kane, auctioneer, as well as a couple of people attended the auction. Everything at this auction sold
very high due to the bad winter indicated by the pricing of all the trucks. One of the same exact trucks
that sold for $8,000 when the auditor was here RMLD traded one in with the RMLD receiving $3,000 from
both bidders. Even though trade in is acceptable by law, it may not meet the best objective of garnering
the best value. However, trade ins can be preferable because they are easy because it is not arguable.
Mr. O'Rourke pointed out that at the last meeting, trade ins are easier, the RMLD's core business is not
selling vehicles, it is selling power. If you hold out there is a cost to doing that. The assets, the three
trucks were fully depreciated. What is the cost, you will have a delta of a few thousand dollars, you can
expend a lot of time and still receive the trade in value. Ms. O'Brien pointed out that much time and
money has been expended on this issue.
Ms. O'Brien explained that Policy 2, Surplus Material has already been approved. There are minor
changes in this proposed revision to Policy 2. The change was to state that scrap value may or may not
have a tangible resale or salvage value. Also added was scrap that has no tangible resale or salvage value.
Scrap having value would be placed in the proper category, substantial value, moderate value or nominal
value. Another change was to take out offering the commercial electric rated trucks to the towns. Mr.
O'Rourke clarified that is correct to say with respect to the town is that the first step is that a fair market
value is to be established, then except for the exclusions the towns would be given the first opportunity.
Ms. O'Brien explained that surplus material that the RMLD has will be offered to the towns with the
exception on electric rated trucks.
Continued Review of Board Policies
Mr. O'Rourke reiterated that a fair market value assessment will be made. Ms. O'Brien replied that is
correct. Mr. O'Rourke said that this will also be for all categories, the moderate and substantial value
Mr. Stempeck added that the towns have the first right of refusal. Ms. O'Brien added that with this
current revision of the policy, if it is non electric rated, if the RMLD has a pickup truck with a plow, the
Kelley Blue Book will provide the value, there is trade in and retail. The electric rated trucks when RMLD
obtained pricing for these vehicles they ranged from $1,700 to $13,500. What is interesting is that the
trucks that sold for $8,000 valued at $13,000, the truck that sold for $10,000 was valued at $1,700. This is
representative of the fact that the pricing is all over the place. The auction prices are driven by the needs
of the purchasers. The tough winter brought the values of bucket trucks up a number of reasons
including tree and snow removal jobs. At the auction, it is whether the potential buyers looking for a sixty
foot extension for tree use or a forty foot extension for home use. It is all contingent on the will of the
potential buyers.
Mr. O'Rourke questioned on a substantial value item that is allowed to be offered to the town, if the town
offers fair market value can you reject that because it is a substantial value item. Mr. Pollart said that the
way the policy is drafted something of substantial value that is not electric this electric utility specific
equipment, if the towns are willing to pay fair market value it is theirs.
Ms. O'Brien pointed out that if you have electric rated trucks you receive pricing of $1,700 or $13,000
what do you offer to the towns because you do not have the Kelley Blue Book. Ms. O'Brien said that if a
car is offered to the town with the range on retail and trade in is $600 the average can be picked. If you
have an electric bucket truck in which four appraisers come in, two have looked at the truck whereas two
have not, with prices ranging from $1,700 to $13,000 what do you offer it to the town for if the objective
is to garner the best value is has to be the $13,000. Ms. O'Brien said that the towns can go to the auction.
Ms. O'Brien said that is non electric utility rated vehicles. Mr. O'Rourke said that any items that are non
electric utility rated, the RMLD will obtain a fair market value then the town would be provided the
opportunity to purchase and if it is within fair market value, there will be no quotes or bids. Ms. O'Brien
agreed that is correct. Mr. Stempeck asked Mr. Pollart if he has reviewed these policies and is he
satisfied with them. Mr. Pollart stated that he is fine with the policies. Mr. O'Rourke said that one of the
items he thought he agreed upon in IV of the policy that it is not the responsibility of the Board to
proactively pre approve the surplus that there would be a monthly report. Mr. O'Rourke said that it does
not state that anything of a certain criteria should come to the Board, he is not sure if that needs to be
tightened up. The policy reads. "The General Manager may require any additional reviews, the General
Manager shall make such reports". Mr. O'Rourke asked committee members if they want more specific
language to include language for substantial value. Mr. O'Rourke said that the Board is periodically that
something of substantial value. Mr. Stempeck said the General Manager makes a report on items of
substantial value on a monthly basis to the Board. The committee members agreed by virtue of the
substantial value is greater than $10,000 that is what they want reported, no formal vote was taken.
Ms. O'Brien reported that the scrap wire bins are full. Ms. O'Brien said that the RMLD needs to obtain
three prices. Ms. O'Brien said that she would be discussing the issue with Powers & Sullivan.
Mr. Pollan reiterated that the change in the policy shall read that: all disposals other than scrap material
having no tangible or resale salvage value shall require administrative reviews of the General Manager.
The General Manager shall make reports monthly on surplus having substantial value. The committee
agreed that the General Manager will report on the sale after the fact, no formal vote was taken.
Mr. O'Rourke made a motion seconded by Mr. Stempeck to approve revision changes subject to final
revisions to RMLD Surplus Policy, Number 2.
Motion carried 3:0:0.
Ms. O'Brien then addressed Policy 9, Procurement. Ms. O'Brien said that there were changes in the laws
which impacted the values which differs in this policy because it is based on criteria that is twenty years
old, this also includes MGL Chapter 30B and Chapter 164. This policy had to be changed to be consistent
with the law. Mr. Stempeck clarified that the purchase of power is exempt and not contained in the
policy. Ms. O'Brien agreed that was correct.
Continued Review of Board Policies
Mr. O'Rourke asked about the vendor list, how does that work, is it looked at regularly, the policy does
not address this. Ms. O'Brien asked if the committee wanted to change this. Ms. O'Brien stated that in
Policy 2 it states that the list shall be reviewed every six months and updated as necessary. Mr. O'Rourke
clarified that the RMLD has a vendor list that is updated and reviewed. Ms. O'Brien replied that is correct.
Mr. Pollart commented that this is an operational question as to whether internally where it is updated.
Ms. O'Brien said that it should be consistent. Mr. O'Rourke said that he does not want it to be onerous.
Ms. O'Brien said that perhaps the six months review should be in the procedure not in the governing
policy. Mr. Pollart was in agreement because a review period is an operational item. Ms. O'Brien said
that is why John Story was hired in order that there could be procedures under the policies. There are
vendors that might change every six months. Mr. Pollart said that review should be in the policies, but
not the timeframe. Mr. Stempeck asked if there are situations where three vendors cannot be secured
due to the uniqueness of the item. Mr. Stempeck suggested adding the language if there are three
available. Mr. Pollart said that you can attempt to solicit. Ms. O'Brien said that can happen on occasion,
on the quotation if you attempted three calls. Mr. Pollart said the language that could be added is if
reasonably available.
Mr. O'Rourke made a motion seconded by Mr. Stempeck to approve revision changes subject to final
revisions to RMLD Procurement Policy, Number 9.
Motion carried 3:0:0.
Ms. O'Brien had previously provided a policy matrix to the Board that delineates what should be
operational and governance (Board policies). Ms. O'Brien said that there are a few policies that can go
either way, therefore can remain governing. Ms. O'Brien stated that policies that are operational will
become procedures. Ms. O'Brien pointed out that policies will always be under the Board of
Commissioners. Drug and Alcohol testing will be a procedure. The format will remain the same. Mr.
O'Rourke noted that the Drug and Alcohol policy could be both where it could be both a policy and a
procedure because it is more far reaching. Mr. Pollart added that Drug and Alcohol is heavily controlled
by law there is not much the Board can do from a policy perspective. Mr. Pollart added that however, Mr.
O'Rourke's point is very well taken. Driving the distinction between operational and governing is not
always that easy. Mr. Pollart added that we did go through this with staff to take a stab at what the
majority of the aspects of the policy whether they were operational or governing. If it is labor and
employment that is operational, it defers to Ms. O'Brien's authority as General Manager. If it is fine detail
such as Policy 2 where it is how to, it is more operational. Mr. Pollart said that as he went through Policy
2 there are aspects that are fine detailed in what the department does and how it does it, therefore that
lends itself to being operational. Mr. Pollart said that due to the overtones that may be associated with a
policy the Board may want to hold onto it. Mr. Pollart said there are four policies that can go either way,
what would work best, Policy 2, Surplus Material, Policy 9 Procurement, Policy 24 TQM initially it makes
sense to dissolve that. Chairman Pacino recommends to dissolve that, but it is an operational policy. Mr.
Pollart added that Anonymous Policy 25, the way to deal with it is operational. Chairman Pacino asked if
we have Whistleblower Policies in place already. Mr. Pollart responded that there are whistleblower
laws. Mr. O'Rourke said that there should be a caveat that commission members are available for
communication. Chairman Pacino said that the policy has become cumbersome. Mr. Pollart said that
from a legal perspective the Whistleblower statutes are designed to protect people who come forward in
a non anonymous fashion. Mr. Pollart said that if you come forward in a non anonymous fashion there is
the opportunity for dialogue. It provides an opportunity as to what the facts are. Mr. Pollart said that
from a lawyer's perspective with an anonymous letter there is no way of checking it. Mr. O'Rourke said
that to play devil's advocate whether a whistleblower they will not get promoted.
Ms. O'Brien said that the discussion is about what policies can be vetted out to the operational side. Mr.
O'Rourke asked if there is an ethical policy. Mr. Pollart responded that there is not. Mr. Pollart added
that there is the state ethics training with periodic training which is established by state law. Mr.
O'Rourke said that it would serve RMLD well to have respect in the workplace when it comes to
termination that ties into your ethical conduct policy. Mr. O'Rourke said that it was surprising to him that
an ethical policy does not exist. RMLD has a sexual harassment policy and question if that could be
broadened for bullying.
Continued Review of Board Policies
Mr. O'Rourke pointed out that laws do cover some items in the workplace, but it is better if they are in a
policy where employees and managers can look at versus quoting the law. Mr. Pollart said that is entirely
an appropriate area for the Board to make a decision on. Mr. O'Rourke said that if it is not in standard
operating procedure he would like it covered in other ways. Mr. Stempeck asked is in it the policy that
the RMLD abides by the state ethical laws. Mr. Pollart said that sexual harassment is heavily controlled by
state law and you do not want to broaden that policy to do anything other than sexual harassment. Mr.
Stempeck added that every corporation that he goes into he sees we support our employees with a
plaque on the wall and there is language as well that covers ethics the RMLD does not have that. Mr.
Talbot said that it is nice to have an expert with Mr. O'Rourke's background and instinct on these items.
Mr. O'Rourke stated that we do not want to have many policies. Ms. O'Brien said that she and Mr. Pollart
will discuss the four policies and get back to the Board. Ms. O'Brien said that the operational policies
could potentially become procedures such as Policy 26 for CDL licenses. Mr. Pollart was in agreement
with this. Ms. O'Brien said that Policy 26 was put in the back of the LMS contract and did not match the
RMLD policy.
In lieu of the Drug and Alcohol Policy there could be a procedure for management. Mr. Pollart added that
drug and alcohol testing is heavily regulated by state law. It could go either way on that where it can be
broaden from a policy or procedure. From a policy perspective, the Board can pass a policy that says as a
policy we want all employees of the RMLD who are not otherwise CDL to be tested in a similar fashion.
Ms. O'Brien pointed out that when she spoke to a labor attorney she was told it was a negotiable item.
Mr. Pollart added if not otherwise covered. Mr. Pollart explained that it is not a negotiable item for the
General Manager because she is not in a union, it is for all non union personnel. Mr. Pollart said that for
union personnel CDL testing the Board has some control over that because under state law the Board is
the entity who is responsible for union negotiations not one of the areas that the manager is in charge it is
the Board. Mr. Pollart said that would come out of labor negotiations. Ms. O'Brien said that for the next
committee meeting, Policy 19 Board of Commissioners and Policy 5 Overnight Travel will be discussed.
Ms. O'Brien pointed out that all the policies listed are currently Board policies with an attempt to get
some operational. Mr. O'Rourke asked Mr. Pollart is he and Ms. O'Brien suggesting policies would be
relative to the Board with the remainder being procedural. Mr. Pollart agreed. Mr. Pollart explained that
policies are a buzzword under Chapter 164 and policy is within the Board's role. Procedure and technical
detail are an operational aspect within the General Manager's role. Mr. Pollart said that to divide the
policies makes it more efficient internally to revise a procedure and the Board to keep the focus where it
needs to be. Ms. O'Brien said that her goal is to work on the policies that will remain policies not
procedures first. Mr. O'Rourke commented that there many items covered in state laws and statutes, but
from a practical administration with employees, you can point to the chapter in the manual. Mr.
O'Rourke asked if the RMLD has an employee handbook. Ms. O'Brien stated that the RMLD does not have
an employee handbook as well as a service, terms and condition handbook which are both on the list. Mr.
Pollart added that many light plants do not have them.
Ms. O'Brien said that Policy 19 stays as a policy and with the revisions to Policy 5 it will determine as
whether it stays a policy.
Mr. Talbot asked if there is an overall template for these policies statewide, does every municipal light
plant parses each policy individually. Mr. Pollart noted that the RMLD is way out in front. If a municipal
light plant has anything it is set and forget.
Discussion of RMLD's Fiber Optic Network
Mr. Talbot stated that fiber falls into the strategic camp. The RMLD has a thirty seven mile loop. In
twenty years, it leases and the manner that the RMLD has dealt with the fiber was as a business which
was handled by the General Manager. The fiber optic issue has never come before the Board. Mr. Talbot
disclosed that he has a job at Harvard Law School where he studies municipal fiber optic networks,
Reading is not being studied, there is no overlap and he is not getting paid. Mr. Talbot said that he knows
something about this. There are many municipal light departments that have had success with fiber optic.
They have saved their towns lots of money by self provisioning their own department, city hall and
schools with Internet versus going to Comcast or Verizon. Putting competition in the market reduces
prices overall and helps economic development.
Discussion of RMLD's Fiber Optic Network
Mr. Talbot said that we need to be thinking of these things. An immediate question that he has for Ms.
O'Brien, there is a contractor that wants to add a fiber backbone through RMLD's service territory which
speaks to where the growth is. Mr. Talbot pointed out that sales are flat, what RMLD is going to do.
There is another whole type of business that is growing where a third party wants to add infrastructure.
There are two things he would like to make sure of that the Board should be informed which is an
opportunity for RMLD to build more fiber than what they are asking for. The incremental cost of added
for capacity for future use is trivial. Mr. Talbot noted that Holyoke has a big data center initially put in
twelve strands then put in an additional one hundred thirty strands which can be leased. Ms. O'Brien said
that the fiber optic is put in at no cost to the RMLD, the RMLD owns it. That is how the fiber optic look got
built. Mr. Talbot said that Lightower is building the fiber optic for their uses, but the RMLD should be
adding fiber for future use.
Mr. Talbot said that the way the RMLD should approach this is that the town broadband committee could
be involved, there has to be a pull from the community. Mr. Talbot said that each respective towns
should study what it is spending on these things, what are their needs and can the RMLD do better than
that. Ms. O'Brien asked Mr. Talbot if he knows what the town is using the fiber for, he did not.
Mr. Price explained the genesis of fiber. In the late nineties, RMLD put up its own seventy two fiber that
loops out to RMLD's substation and back to RMLD. This was originally done for communications with the
substation. Mr. Price said that they lease off the loop and have some spurs off the fiber. One goes up to
North Reading and the other goes out to Woburn. When Lightower wants to lease off the RMLD they
come in from Woburn and with North Reading they go to Andover. Mr. Stempeck asked if Lightower is
the leasing agent. Mr. Price responded that the RMLD has an indisputable right of use agreement. Ms.
O'Brien explained that Lightower comes in, goes around the loop and their customers could be outside of
Reading. Mr. Price added that they have hit cell towers within RMLD's service territory. The way the loop
is broken up if they use half the loop they pay to use all the fiber whether they have or not. If they use
two thirds of the fiber on the west side of Reading they pay for the other two thirds. It is dark fiber as
well as heavy fiber. Ms. O'Brien asked Mr. Price how many strands the RMLD is currently using. Mr. Price
responded that the RMLD is using two tubes, with twenty four dedicated to the RMLD. There are blue
and orange tubes which has twelve fibers in each tube. Mr. Talbot asked if any business has been asked
to be hooked up to the fiber. Mr. Price responded, no.
Mr. Talbot explained that at a high level towns have a study committee which identifies what they pay
now for Internet services then the consultant can look if the services can be provisioned for less cost. Mr.
Talbot said that he is performing a study in Holyoke, he is knowledgeable about them. Mr. Talbot
reported that Holyoke is saving $100,000 internally versus leasing lines, telephone. There is a similar
savings there for town halls and schools receive. If these parties had to go out on the private market it
would cost them $300,000 annually. Mr. Talbot said that this has to come from the towns we cannot
figure out their needs. Mr. Talbot said that he will be asking the town what we do now and what they are
spending then the RMLD can look where the fiber loop is and see if it is a business that the RMLD can get
into and run the numbers similar to a solar site. Maybe the RMLD can get an expert in what the towns are
doing to look at where RMLD's loop is. Mr. Price added that Reading has its own fiber that connects all
their municipal buildings, the school, the fire department, but is uncertain if it goes back to town hall. Mr.
Price pointed out that Wilmington put in its own fiber and is uncertain about North Reading. Mr. Talbot
asked if they lease from any private company. Mr. Price responded that he is uncertain. Mr. Stempeck
commented that they get their Internet access from that. Mr. Price said that he thinks it may all go to
town hall. Mr. Stempeck asked are they associated with Lightower. Mr. Price replied, no. Mr. Price
noted that they ran the fiber through all the buildings, it could be at town hall and is unsure who their
provider is. Mr. Talbot asked if that is an Intranet. Mr. Talbot said that this is an example where we do
not know all the details. Mr. Talbot said this may present opportunities to save all the four towns money.
Mr. Talbot commented that the RMLD should get an expert to see how RMLD can benefit from this.
Mr. Talbot said that this is something that the Board should be involved with. Mr. Stempeck added that
we should at least know what the boundaries are because if there is a lease agreement in place it may be
difficult to replace it.
Discussion of RMLD's Fiber Optic Network
Mr. Price explained the contracts usually have you locked in for the first three years and there is a
renewal process annually. Mr. Stempeck asked if Lightower is using cell tower communication. Mr. Price
explained that Lightower they leased out fiber and have reached out to the cell towers. Lightower has
leased communication to Winchester Hospital and Wilmington Health Center. Mr. Price mentioned that
they aggregate different fiber from different areas. Mr. Talbot clarified that Lightower uses RMLD fiber to
reach out to a cell tower and provide back to carriers. Mr. Price noted that one of them was Metro PCS in
which they hit a bunch of towers brought fiber in and fiber out. Mr. Talbot clarified that Lightower is
making money from Metro PCS. Mr. Price agreed. Ms. O'Brien added that the RMLD is making money.
Mr. Talbot said that is what Lightower is making from Metro PCS. The wireless business is exploding and
this is where the growth is. Mr. Talbot noted that the RMLD does not have a telecom person in house.
Mr. O'Rourke said that his only caution is that the Board should stay involved and be involved, but needs
to hook back here. If we get too ahead from the Board's perspective, it will be driven back into the
operational side. Mr. O'Rourke noted that it was mentioned that two things need to happen due diligence
which Mr. Talbot could do, but worries, Mr. Talbot responded he is not doing it, Mr. O'Rourke added that
we all know the importance of the revenue piece. Ms. O'Brien clarified with Mr. Talbot what are his
expectations. Mr. Talbot added that if $225,000 were spent on other studies for the electric side it is
worth it at a cost of a tenth of that to bring in a knowledgeable person to look at what are the loops and
what are the deals the towns have and see what an opportunity it maybe for the RMLD. Mr. Stempeck
said that before that we need information on how much the RMLD is making on the leases, what the
leases look like and the parties involved then proceed to the next step. Mr. Price stated that all the fiber
lease agreements are with Lightower. Lightower provided the opportunity to RMLD to lease out the fiber
and make money. Chair Pacino said that at a Board meeting a presentation can be made to fully discuss
this. Mr. Talbot said that the RMLD needs to get expert eyes to look at this, our network foot print to
come up with suggestions. Mr. Stempeck commented that one thing to bear in mind is that with Comcast
and Verizon there may provisions within their contracts that may prohibit this. Mr. O'Rourke asked if
there is anything contained in the most recent studies that address fiber. Ms. O'Brien responded that is
mentioned in the Reliability Study.
Mr. Pollan explained that to the extent that you hang fiber and it is for light plant such as interconnecting
substations back to SCADA that is an appropriate electric expense. To the extent you decide to go into
the Internet business, enter contracts with Comcast and buy the head equipment that becomes a
different expense that is not an electric expense, you have to come up with that money. Mr. Talbot
commented that you have come up with a revenue model. Mr. Talbot said that the RMLD is leasing it out
to a telecom company and is already in that business de facto. Mr. Pollart noted that to the extent you
need $5,000 for head end equipment you have to set a loan between the money that RMLD has and is
legally able to loan out or you need to go to the town of Reading for a bond obligation. Mr. Talbot said
that the way this is done is incrementally. The fiber is near industrial park and the low hanging fruit is the
industrial park to get them in advance to sign up and there is the revenue model. Mr. Price added the
RMLD is not building with its own money, the RMLD is receiving the money. Mr. Talbot added the flip side
is that when you are building the incremental costs for one hundred strands is trivial. The money is in the
labor and pole attachments. If there is construction to put up strands if you look at the numbers, the cost
is low. Mr. Talbot said that he mentioned at the CAB meeting to gather the information on what each
town is spending then have an expert look at this. It is a guaranteed revenue model. Ms. O'Brien said
that Mr. Price will work with Mr. Jaffari to come up with a presentation. Mr. Price added that as far as
revenue with the fiber optic, the RMLD is receiving $50 per fiber per month. Ms. O'Brien said that the
RMLD looked at what other towns were receiving revenue wise and this was pretty high. Mr. Price
mentioned that besides RMLD, Braintree was one of the first utilities to hang fiber. Other towns have
used a contractor for the fiber installations. Ms. O'Brien said that when Lightower builds a spur it spends
their own money. Mr. Price explained that Lightower they lease the fiber that they have installed from
the RMLD. Mr. Jaffari clarified that the Board would like a presentation on the current status of the fiber
loop, how much money RMLD is making and general facts.
Mr. Talbot said that no one has the knowledge if that information is good or bad. Mr. Talbot added that
the research group that he is spearheading their event is two months down the road and will address
Holyoke, which will be held at Harvard Law School on July 8. Mr. Stempeck said that he is interested in
this for fiber for internet access only.
Mr. Pollart added to the extent that municipal light plants are doing fiber, Westfield, Holyoke, Taunton
Shrewsbury and Braintree their finances are publicly available if you want to see how they are doing. Mr.
Talbot added that on the fiber they cannot make more than the eight percent. Mr. Pollart noted that the
eight percent applies to the telecom as well.
Schedule Next Meeting
Policy Committee meeting will be scheduled by Ms. Foti.
Motion to Adjourn
At 8:53 a.m. Mr. Stempeck made a motion seconded by Mr. O'Rourke to adjourn the meeting.
Motion carried 3:0:0.