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RMLD Citizens Advisory Board
Date: 2015-05-20 Time: 6:30 PM
Building: Reading Municipal Light Building Location: Winfred Spurr Audio Visual Room
Address: 230 Ash Street
Purpose: Regular Business Session: General Session
Attendees: Members - Present:
Mr. George Hooper, Chair (Wilmington); Mr. David Nelson, Vice Chair
(Lynnfield); Mr. David Mancuso, Secretary (Reading); Mr. Dennis Kelley
(Wilmington)
Members - Not Present:
Mr. Mark Chrisos (North Reading)
Others Present:
Mr. David Talbot, Board of Commissioners
Ms. Coleen O'Brien, Mr. Tom 011ila, Ms. Kathleen Rybak
Mr. Mark Dockser, Reading Resident o
Minutes Respectfully Submitted By: Mr. David Mancuso, Secretary
Topics of Discussion:
1. Cali Meeting to Order — G. Hooper, Chair
Chair Hooper called the meeting of the Citizens' Advisory Board to order at 6:30 PM and
noted that the meeting was being audio recorded.
Ms. O'Brien requested that we move out of order and begin with Agenda Item number
three (Potential to Form Broadband Study Committee).
2. Potential to Form Broadband Study Committee — G. Hooper, Chair
Handout: Tasks for a Four-town RMLD Broadband Study Committee
Mr. Mark Dockser, a Reading resident and Town Meeting Member from Precinct One,
and current Chair of the Reading Finance Committee, was present to support an Idea to
look into whether or not there is an opportunity to provide high speed internet through
fiber to different areas of the different towns. Mr. Dockser stated that he would be
willing to participate in a committee to look into this.
Chair Hooper stated that Mr. Talbot had shown some interest in this subject and the
CAB was going to discuss the topic and further investigate. Mr. Talbot arrived and
provided a handout and some background information. There are 41 MLPs in the state
and 12 do some type of telecom business. Mr. Talbot stated that this is something he
has been studying in his day job, and noted that Taunton and Holyoke have had some
interesting successes. Savings to the municipality are from providing the complete
networking, Internet, and voice over internet protocol for the municipality and for the
utility itself. Holyoke also provides service to their businesses in the downtown area
and the schools. There are savings and benefits to the community just from that much.
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The first question that we could ask is what we could save our own town halls and
schools, and RMLD, by doing this just for the public agencies and nothing else. The
second area would be high priority economic development areas: what do they have
now for infrastructure, how happy are the businesses, and how close is our fiber loop to
places that we want to redevelop. Mr. Talbot noted that in 1996 the State law (Chapter
164) was changed to allow MLPs to go into this business. There was discussion about
'i i '• whether or not RMLD has ever looked at this issue in depth. RMLD owns a 23-mile fiber
loop. There are two tubes (out of 12) dedicated to RMLD, and a private company leases
some of the remaining ten tubes. Mr. Talbot stated that this suggest that there is
someone making money off it, and the question is if we could do whatever it is they do
and make money off of it directly.
Chair Hooper asked if the Board of Commissioners is trying to develop a committee.
Mr. Talbot responded that the idea would be to identify people in the community who
are telecom experts/engineers who could look at the possibility of expanded use of our
fiber loop to serve the towns and some commercial development. Mr. Talbot noted that
Mr. Mancuso is knowledgeable in this area. Chair Hooper confirmed with Mr. Talbot
that it is all exploratory at this point, and asked If he was looking for one of the CAB
members to be involved. Mr. Talbot confirmed that. Mr. Nelson asked if Mr. Talbot
was looking to start a committee soon, or If he had some preliminary steps to lay out
first. Mr. Talbot noted that he was unsure of the next steps; it could be a formal
committee that reports to the RMLD Board, or an ad hoc committee. Mr. Kelley asked if
the fiber loop was considered as part of the Organizational Study and if there was a
feeling that there was a missed Income/revenue stream that RMLD was not getting.
Ms. O'Brien responded that the Reliability Study looked at the loop relative to
automation and electric reliability Issues, as well as overall capacity and said there was
sufficient capacity to look at other things, but it would require a realistic study.
The group discussed the current use of the fiber loop and the potential for growth. Mr.
Mancuso asked if the goal was revenue generation. Mr. Talbot responded that the goal
is more the savings to the municipality. The group discussed the competitive nature
and complexities of the high-speed internet/broadband/telephony market. Mr. Dockser
added (speaking as a Finance Committee member) that they are looking for any new
source of revenue that seems reasonable. We explore things that on the surface are
questionable in some cases, but we see what's underneath and see if that Is really the
case. The money is limited, and the needs are going up; we need to find new sources
of revenue. If the only source of revenue is raising taxes, that is pretty limited too.
There are some strong economic development zones in Reading, and if we can entice
people with high-speed broadband, that might be interesting enough to explore.
Chair Hooper stated that we all understand the want and the need, and noted that Mr.
Mancuso has expressed an Interest and would be a good candidate to participate on a
committee, if the other members agreed. As this project is in Its infancy, we should
start with one member pending additional information. Chair Hooper noted that he did
not believe a motion was necessary to have an Individual serve on the committee.
Mr. Talbot noted that the Harvard Law School, Berkman Center for Internet and Society
would be hosting a symposium on this topic on July B and Invited CAB members to
attend.
Mr. Dockser and Mr. Talbot left the meeting.
3. Community Solar Update — T. 011ila, Integrated Resources Engineer
Slide Presentation: Community Shared Solar(CSS) Program Overview May 2015
Mr. 011ila provided an overview for a potential RMLD Community Shared Solar (CSS)
project, currently under development. Mr. 011ila has been working on the model for
the past 2-3 months, and has formed an ad hoc committee including representatives
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from the Reading Climate Advisory Committee, staff from Reading Town Hall, as well as
residents (from both Reading and North Reading). Mr. 011ila reviewed the slides
provided in the Agenda packet. A CSS benefits the four major entities involved: a
private developer, RMLD, the town, and the end user/participants. A developer would
raise the money for the capital outlay, coordinate and act as prime contractor on the
job to design the system, do all EPC work to construct, install, own, and operate It.
Neither RMLD or the towns would be responsible to raise money (to fund the project).
The CSS concept has been around for 4-5 years and has been very active in Colorado
and California. It Is much newer in Massachusetts, but there have been groups that
have implemented community solar programs. However, no municipal utility has
implemented such a program. After completing the presentation, Mr. 011ila accepted
questions.
Chair Hooper asked about special considerations that may come up such as aging roofs,
or general maintenance, and snow accumulation and plowing issues around canopies.
The group discussed various construction and maintenance scenarios. Mr. 011ila stated
that all of these things would be considered for the specific site. Operation and
maintenance Issues would be built into the agreement over the life of the contract (with
the developer). They are responsible to maintain whatever level of performance you
agree on and you can build in esthetic issues as well.
Mr. Mancuso asked about the effective power generation, or what the install value Is -
would it be one megawatt that we would be generating or is that the capacity. Mr.
011ila responded that the output to us is about one megawatt. The actual DC capacity
rating of the array is about 1.2 to 1.3. In rough terms, the typical panel today is
around 300 watts (3-4 panels per kilowatt).
Mr. Mancuso asked if the financial end is predicated on selling all of the panels. Mr.
011ila responded that RMLD would establish a PPA with the vendor to purchase any
output that is not subscribed to by an end user. The developer is guaranteed that
RMLD will take all the power if it is not purchased by customers. The goal is to have it
fully subscribed between either the site owner or the end users. Mr. Mancuso asked if
fully subscribed, is there any impact on the non-participating ratepayer relative to the
cost. Mr. 011ila responded no. Mr. Mancuso stated RMLD is not necessarily reaping any
benefit other than having more solar In the mix. The individual user then gets the net
metering benefit (whatever that may be) if they choose to purchase it. Mr. 011ila
responded that it helps RMLD by reducing transmission and capacity charges - not by a
huge amount because our peak hours are later in the day, but there would be some
benefit there. Mr. Mancuso asked if we are able to quantify that for the average
ratepayer that does not buy into the project. Mr. 011ila responded that we could
estimate that.
Mr. Nelson asked when RMLD would think of evolving this into the other member
towns. Mr. 011ila responded that the goal is to get a system like this into the ground
this calendar year, and then expand to other sites. Chair Hooper noted that Wilmington
has already identified a few areas that might be suitable for a project. Mr. Nelson
asked about any risks to the municipalities. Have any projects been abandoned. Mr.
011ila responded that typically, the project itself is bonded. They create a special
purpose entity, essentially a stand-along company that is just that one array, and the
cash comes in and the cash goes out (self-sustaining). If the company (the vendor)
stopped or went out of business - the entity could continue on its awn. Mr. Kelley
asked about the removal cast at the end of the life of the array. Mr. 011ila stated that it
is built into the bonding as well.
There were no additional questions. Chair Hooper thanked Mr. 011ila.
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4. RMLD Policy Committee Update - C. O'Brien, General Manager
Ms. O'Brien provided an update on the work of the Policy Committee. For Policy 2 -
Surplus Material, a subsequent revision was necessary, which includes two changes;
the policy had indicated that scrap had no value, but some scrap within the electric
industry (i.e., wire) actually has value. We separated "scrap that has value" and "scrap
that has no value." The second change relates to electric utility-rated rolling stock.
We eliminated the option for the towns to purchase these vehicles directly. The intent
of 30B and the Policy is to garner the best possible (reasonable) price.
Ms. O'Brien offered a recent example where RMLD did a significant amount of work
getting professional appraisals for utility-rated trucks. For example, appraised values
ranged from $1,700 to about $10,000 on one truck. The question became; what would
RMLD offer these trucks to the towns for? If the intent is to garner the best value, then
it would have to be sold to the town for $10,000. We asked the (Reading) Town
auditor if we could go to an absolute auction. As long as the average fair market value
is less than $10,000, we can. For an absolute auction, you do not reserve your right to
reject a bid as long as it Is under $10,000. That was all within the wording that was in
the policy and it remains the same.
Chair Hooper asked if RMLD would still provide to the communities a list of the vehicles
that are going out for auction. Ms. O'Brien confirmed RMLD will still post that It Is going
to auction. All the other vehicles (non-electric rated utility rolling stock) and surplus
will continue to go through the towns with the same wording.
Ms. O'Brien continued with a review of Polity 9 - RMLD Procurement. The limits for
what needs to go to sealed bid were adjusted to reflect current limits per Chapter 164
($25,000) and Chapter 30B ($35,000).
Ms. O'Brien reported that the Policy Committee and legal are looking at all policies to
determine which policies are considered operational, and which are considered
governing. We would like to make that separation so that the Policy Committee can
look at the governing policies first, and staff can review the operational policies. CAB
members requested the opportunity to review the policies as they are being revised.
Ms. O'Brien noted that CAB members are welcome to come to the Policy Committee
meetings, and agreed to email the Commissioners to let them know that the CAB would
like to see the polity revisions as they are being reviewed. The current process
includes review and revision by legal. The policy revisions are then sent to the GM who
reviews them and sends them to the Policy Committee for review. We are targeting
two policies per month as the Committee schedule allows. Each approved/revised
policy will be scheduled for review every three years.
5. NEPPA Annual Conference 2015 - G. Hooper, Chair
Chair Hooper noted that the annual NEPPA conference would be held August 23-26 at
Bretton Woods, New Hampshire. After discussion, the CAB agreed to send up to three
members to the conference.
Mr. Nelson made a motion that the CAB authorize up to three members to attend the
2015 NEPPA Annual Conference, seconded by Mr. Kelley. Hearing no further discussion,
Motion carried 4:0:1 (4 /n favor, O opposed, 1 absent).
6. Discussion - Setting CAB Agendas - G. Hooper, Chair
The group discussed the process for setting the CAB Agenda. Chair Hooper stated that
at any meeting members may suggest agenda items for an upcoming meeting.
Members may also contact the Chair (or Vice Chair in the Chair's absence) to request
an agenda item that comes up outside of the meeting. Ideally, members should
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contact the Chair as soon as possible, but at least two weeks prior to the scheduled
meeting. This will allow adequate time to prepare for the discussion.
7. Next Meeting — G. Hooper, Chair
The next meeting of the CAB was set for June 17, 2015, at 6:30 pm.
Ms. O'Brien noted that there will be a presentation on the history of the fiber at the May
28th Commissioners meeting, and cautioned that there are security Issues related to
the fiber network, which will limit the information presented.
Returning to the discussion of fiber, Mr. Kelley expressed his concern that Reading
Light's core competency is electricity, and we may be entering into another field where
we may/or may not have expertise. Mr. Mancuso responded that he would take that
caution very seriously.
Ms. O'Brien added that we just got out of the Organizational and Reliability Studies, and
we have a huge amount of change management to get through. I have no objection to
studying it, but I have to understand what the impact is going to be on staffing and
how the headend works. The group discussed the challenges of expanding focus away
from RMLD's core competency and how fiber expansion might Impact the bottom line
for RMLD and the towns.
8. Motion to Adjourn — G. Hooper, Chair
Mr. Nelson made a Motion to adjourn the Citizens' Advisory Board meeting, seconded
by Mr. Kelley. Hearing no further discussion, Motion carried 4:0:1 (4 in favor, O
opposed, 1 absent).
The Citizens' Advisory Board Meeting adjourned at 8:01 PM.
As approved on January 13, 2016
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HANDOUT
May 20, 2015, CAB Meeting
TASKS FOR A FOUR-TOWN RMLD BROADBAND STUDY COMMITTEE
Brief Background: Massachusetts has 41 municipal electric utilities (including
RMLD) of which 12 (not including RMLD) are in the telecom business in addition
to the electricity business. Done right, a muni telecom/Internet business can
provide municipal savings, aid economic development, and produce revenue.
Should RMLD do something? The strategy should be incremental. And the way to
look for incremental opportunities is to form a 4-town committee (with some
telecom expertise on it) that can identify specific market niches and savings
opportunities. Going into this, I would point out a few things. 1: RMLD already
has a 23-mile fiber optic loop, some of which runs through areas we would like to
redevelop. 2: The Town(s) have additional fiber. 3: Fiber has enormous capacity
that grows as new electronics emerge. 4: Data needs are booming in all sectors.
(Draft) Initial Committee Tasks:
A: Pull together a comprehensive map of existing fiber optic assets owned by
RMLD, the Town, and the other three towns served by RMLD. This will help build
"situational awareness" of available infrastructure already paid for.
B: Add up how much the four Towns and Schools spend on various telecom
services (phone/voice, Internet, networking, leased lines, public safety radio, etc).
RMLD might do better, providing revenue to RMLD while saving taxpayer dollars.
C: Identify (with some granularity) gaps in high-speed service provision by
incumbents. Survey local businesses and institutions for their level of satisfaction,
and identify a few targets of opportunity where we'd have a revenue model.
D: See what we can potentially do in high-priority redevelopment areas. RMLD's
fiber optic loop literally runs through some of these zones. Can we attract high-
bandwidth business with premium data service? (They'd also buy our electricity.)
What current or proposed buildings we could service?
This is a partial and draft list, but it gives a sense of what a four-town committee
could do.
David Talbot, chair, Reading Municipal Light Board